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    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    I woulsd like to see the death penalty for such cases.
    Not exactly sure how the death penalty worked, but I seem to remember that it was mandatory for murder, which is why Ruth Ellis was hanged. If it were left to the judge to decide whether or not to use it, that might work. However, what we have now is a farce. Life imprisonment for murder can be as little as 12 years and an offender can be out on parole after 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohntheBike View Post
    Life imprisonment for murder can be as little as 12 years and an offender can be out on parole after 6.
    This is not true - the tarrif (prison portion) is given as a minimum - if they get 12 years, then they will serve a MINIMUM of 12 years. And unlike other sentencing, there's no guarantee of release at the 12 year mark and even when they are released, the life portion can never be served. So they can get recalled to prison etc.

    I don't disagree that some of our sentencing is poor, but it's important to understand the nuances of a life sentence vs an ordinary sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwdan View Post
    This is not true - the tarrif (prison portion) is given as a minimum - if they get 12 years, then they will serve a MINIMUM of 12 years. And unlike other sentencing, there's no guarantee of release at the 12 year mark and even when they are released, the life portion can never be served. So they can get recalled to prison etc.

    I don't disagree that some of our sentencing is poor, but it's important to understand the nuances of a life sentence vs an ordinary sentence.
    OK, but even 12 years is clearly too low. Life imprisonment should mean they die in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohntheBike View Post
    OK, but even 12 years is clearly too low. Life imprisonment should mean they die in prison.
    Well instead of them dying in prison, which is all at a taxpayers expense for a number of years, why not just execute them and save money?
    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darmstadt View Post
    Well instead of them dying in prison, which is all at a taxpayers expense for a number of years, why not just execute them and save money?
    Because in any country pretending to have any kind of just justice system, execution costs far more than prison

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    Quote Originally Posted by darmstadt View Post
    Well instead of them dying in prison, which is all at a taxpayers expense for a number of years, why not just execute them and save money?
    That's just what Goebbels said, probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigenare View Post
    That's just what Goebbels said, probably.
    Well Prince Philip agrees too - so lets do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Well Prince Philip agrees too - so lets do it.
    Have you ever seen Goebbels and Phil-the-Greek in the same room?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darmstadt View Post
    Well instead of them dying in prison, which is all at a taxpayers expense for a number of years, why not just execute them and save money?
    Sounds like we need another referendum once we have got control of our own laws back, also make it retrospective so Huntley pays for his crimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny View Post
    Sounds like we need another referendum once we have got control of our own laws back, also make it retrospective so Huntley pays for his crimes
    Or not intervene next time he tries to kill himself...
    His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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