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    UK people would push a fat man off a bridge to stop a runaway train killing five people | Daily Mail Online

    Three out of five people in the UK would push a fat man off a bridge to stop a runaway train killing five people - but that doesn't make Britons 'evil'

    • People were asked if they'd actively kill one person in order to save five people
    • Three out of five people asked in the UK said they would kill a single individual
    • Researchers wanted to understand the morals of people in different countries
    • They found western countries would actively kill one person to save the many
    • They say this could be due to western cultures being more open to 'speaking up'
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    It's interesting this because actually the only answer you can give is to do absolutely nothing.

    If you push the fat man off the bridge and kill him that is murder - even though in doing so you save more people.

    If you do not push the fat man and the other 5 people get killed - not your fault.

    The law is an ass.

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    As always with these kinds of thing we need to look to the future generations

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    Quote Originally Posted by original PM View Post
    It's interesting this because actually the only answer you can give is to do absolutely nothing.

    If you push the fat man off the bridge and kill him that is murder - even though in doing so you save more people.

    If you do not push the fat man and the other 5 people get killed - not your fault.

    The law is an ass.
    What about moral law, are you morally allowed to kill one man to save 5? What about 50? 50,000? 50,000,000?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonMac View Post
    What about moral law, are you morally allowed to kill one man to save 5? What about 50? 50,000? 50,000,000?
    Interesting question but nope - do nothing and you are innocent.

    Do something and either kill 1 person or 5 people you are guilty of murder.

    But I think the whole split track quandry was created is to spark this discussion regarding moral law v's 'real' law.

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    And what about if the 5 people are members of this forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by original PM View Post
    Interesting question but nope - do nothing and you are innocent.

    Do something and either kill 1 person or 5 people you are guilty of murder.

    But I think the whole split track quandry was created is to spark this discussion regarding moral law v's 'real' law.
    What about Duty to rescue - Wikipedia?
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    How fat is the man in question? Can he actually be pushed or would it be too much of an effort?

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    What about pushing the fat guy off the bridge then claiming he selflessly jumped?

    That way he dies a hero, the five other people survive, and you don't get done for murder?

    Win-win-win!!

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