COVID paranoia

[GreenT]

wonder how many extra don't die due to:

1. Better air quality
2. Longer sleep (->stronger immune systems)
3. Less spread of other infectious diseases

Wonder how many extra die from:-

1. Cancer
2. Suicide
3. Anything else

because we went too far with the paranoia

[AtW]

wonder how many extra don't die due to:

1. Better air quality
2. Longer sleep (->stronger immune systems)
3. Less spread of other infectious diseases

It's going to be more than balanced by

1. Mass unemployment or worries about becoming unemployed
2. Sleep will be fecked due to #1
3. Fear of getting Covid will result in less people getting treatment for treatable deseases

Pretty DOOMy, eh?

[Old Greg]

wonder how many extra don't die due to:

1. Better air quality
2. Longer sleep (->stronger immune systems)
3. Less spread of other infectious diseases

Reduction in preterm births during the COVID-19 lockdown in Ireland: a natural experiment allowing analysis of data from the prior two decades. | medRxiv

[Old Greg]

It's going to be more than balanced by

1. Mass unemployment or worries about becoming unemployed
2. Sleep will be fecked due to #1
3. Fear of getting Covid will result in less people getting treatment for treatable deseases

Pretty DOOMy, eh?

Couple can't believe how much money they've saved by being middle class during lockdown

[Excursion UK]

There is too much research that is not properly peer reviewed - these things take years and the virus is moving fast, one thing for sure - it won’t “fizzle” out for years, but vaccine could reduce severity a lot

Yes, just like Professor Ferguson's dodgy C code upon which the model which resulted in this calamitous lockdown is based.

Don't make me laugh....

[AtW]

Yes, just like Professor Ferguson's dodgy C code upon which the model which resulted in this calamitous lockdown is based.

Don't make me laugh....

Why dodgy - his model was spot on, so far 40k dead from 10% infections at best, so 400-500k forecast was correct - plus more since Nhs would have been overwhelmed, the chap was correct - the cretininous ministers were half arsed in lockdown and exiting too early

[Excursion UK]

Why dodgy - his model was spot on, so far 40k dead from 10% infections at best, so 400-500k forecast was correct - plus more since Nhs would have been overwhelmed, the chap was correct - the cretininous ministers were half arsed in lockdown and exiting too early

The code was found to produce very different results given identical inputs meaning that it's unusable for scientific purposes. More here

Besides, 40k dead - how many died FROM covid as opposed to WITH covid? These figures are a total nonsense.

[AtW]

The code was found to produce very different results given identical inputs meaning that it's unusable for scientific purposes. More here

Besides, 40k dead - how many died FROM covid as opposed to WITH covid? These figures are a total nonsense.

Excess deaths over 5 year average show pretty clear picture - 40k is minimum, 60k are excess.

His model appears pretty correct, if anything underestimating risk, but then again in March he had limited time/data.

There is another thing - it’s not just deaths but long term damage to their health - that is could be easily 10 times the number of dead

[SueEllen]

The code was found to produce very different results given identical inputs meaning that it's unusable for scientific purposes. More here

Besides, 40k dead - how many died FROM covid as opposed to WITH covid? These figures are a total nonsense.

Unfair

The UK government couldn't be bothered to put in a proper testing regime.

[Excursion UK]

Excess deaths over 5 year average show pretty clear picture - 40k is minimum, 60k are excess.

His model appears pretty correct, if anything underestimating risk, but then again in March he had limited time/data.

There is another thing - it’s not just deaths but long term damage to their health - that is could be easily 10 times the number of dead

Sorry, not quite sure what you're saying there