Thicko thought for the day

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Definition of dying from Covid-19

4.1 Definition of COVID-19 related deaths
There are 2 definitions of a death in a person with COVID-19 in England, one broader measure and one measure reflecting current trends:
1) A death in a person with a laboratory-confirmed positive COVID-19 and either:
died within (equal to or less than) 60 days of the first specimen date or
died more than 60 days after the first specimen date, only if COVID-19 is mentioned on the death certificate
2) A death in a person with a laboratory-confirmed positive COVID-19 test and died within (equal to or less than) 28 days of the first positive specimen date.
The daily number represents new deaths reported to PHE in the 24 hours up to 5pm the previous day. Report date does not necessarily equate to date of death as it may take up to a week for deaths to be reported to PHE.

So if you have the vaccine next week and you die within 28 days of receiving it, does that mean the vaccine killed you?



Joking of course.

[Paddy]

Definition of dying from Covid-19



So if you have the vaccine next week and you die within 28 days of receiving it, does that mean the vaccine killed you?



Joking of course.

No, the fact the you had underwear on killed you

[ladymuck]

But what if you had covid, recovered and then get run over by a bus?

[Paralytic]

But what if you had covid, recovered and then get run over by a bus?

Daft as it sounds, if the bus hit you within 28 days, you'd be included in the covid deaths using that measure.

But, if you die on day 29, even if there is a strong indicator that it was Covid related, you'd not be.

But, such scenarios would just be noise in the grand scheme of things - so long as a consistent measurement is used, the figures can be used to determine trends. The ONS figures show that the absolute "positive within previous 28 days" figures should be treated with caution.

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Daft as it sounds, if the bus hit you within 28 days, you'd be included in the covid deaths.

But, if you die on day 29, even if there is a strong indicator that it was Covid related, you'd not be.

But such instances are just noise in the grand scheme of things - so long as a consistent measurement is used, the figures can be used to determine trends. The ONS figures show that the absolute "positive within previous 28 days" figures should be treated with caution.

Interestingly, the number of deaths from dementia is falling.

UK dementia deaths decline by largest number in 20 years

Dementia deaths have declined by the largest number in 20 years, Government figures have revealed.

So Covid-19 is a cure for dementia?

[Paralytic]

So Covid-19 is a cure for dementia?

Is that your takeaway from the article?

[ladymuck]

Daft as it sounds, if the bus hit you within 28 days, you'd be included in the covid deaths using that measure.

But, if you die on day 29, even if there is a strong indicator that it was Covid related, you'd not be.

But, such scenarios would just be noise in the grand scheme of things - so long as a consistent measurement is used, the figures can be used to determine trends. The ONS figures show that the absolute "positive within previous 28 days" figures should be treated with caution.

The first measure is within 60 days. Not sure what the difference is between the two

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Is that your takeaway from the article?

No, what was yours?

[Andy2]

Interestingly, the number of deaths from dementia is falling.

UK dementia deaths decline by largest number in 20 years



So Covid-19 is a cure for dementia?

maybe they forgot to count exact numbers

[WTFH]

If it takes you 29 days to die of Covid, it's no longer reported as a covid death.
If you die of pneumonia 75 days after a positive test, and the pneumonia is because of fluid in your lungs from having had Covid, it's not a Covid death
If you have a heart attack out walking due to your impaired lung function 6 weeks after testing positive, it's not a Covid death.

That's why excess deaths is a better way to look at what's actually happening