So it begins

[AtW]

Conditional democratic government and liberty just has never happened outside the Anglo sphere.

Works well in South Korea, Japan, Israel, all around Europe - even Iran is pretty democratic actually, far more so than Russia, suppose they did not have a couple of decades of Stalin followed by a couple of generations of brainwashing (other than religion but there it's a given regardless if ayatollah runs the country or not).

Democracy wise UK and USA are fooked with cretinous FPTP system.

[KinooOrKinog]

this is simple and I've had this plan for years.

Refuse a vaccine that you are medically fit to take? No NHS care ever. And forced sterilisation.

Refuse a vaccine for your children who are medically fit? Social services get involved and the outcome being that continuing to endanger the child involves further steps, to the full power of SS and family courts.

Mandatory organ transplant for all.

Mandatory blood donation. To keep any illicit drug use/HIV/other things personal the donation will be destroyed after collection.

What a classic example of Poe's law.
I hope not, but I honestly have no idea if this person is being serious.

[jayn200]

Works well in South Korea, Japan, Israel, all around Europe - even Iran is pretty democratic actually, far more so than Russia, suppose they did not have a couple of decades of Stalin followed by a couple of generations of brainwashing (other than religion but there it's a given regardless if ayatollah runs the country or not).

Democracy wise UK and USA are fooked with cretinous FPTP system.

How so? The head of state in Iran is not democratically elected. The head of state in russia is. Russia has fairer elections than Iran. Your post is just ridiculous. Are you trolling?

[minestrone]

Works well in South Korea, Japan, Israel, all around Europe - even Iran is pretty democratic actually, far more so than Russia, suppose they did not have a couple of decades of Stalin followed by a couple of generations of brainwashing (other than religion but there it's a given regardless if ayatollah runs the country or not).

Democracy wise UK and USA are fooked with cretinous FPTP system.

If you are gay in Iran and the government finds out they put a rope round your neck, tie it to a crane and lift you up.

Dont ****** dare present that argument to me again.

[AtW]

How so? The head of state in Iran is not democratically elected. The head of state in russia is. Russia has fairer elections than Iran. Your post is just ridiculous. Are you trolling?

Neither is Her Majesty.

Iran got far fairer elections - compared to Russia also, it's self-evident from new people being elected to the top Presidential job where as in Russia it's all BS with the same person (Glorious and Wise Leader Put1n) staying in.

[AtW]

If you are gay in Iran and the government finds out they put a rope round your neck, tie it to a crane and lift you up. Dont ****** dare present that argument to me again.

And what happened to gays in this country until pretty recently?

Asking for Alan Turing

[minestrone]

And what happened to gays in this country until pretty recently?

Asking for Alan Turing

Are you seriously suggesting Iran who stones adulteress women to death is the moral equivalent of us for a mathematicians suicide 80 odd years ago?

[minestrone]

Neither is Her Majesty.

Iran got far fairer elections - compared to Russia also, it's self-evident from new people being elected to the top Presidential job where as in Russia it's all BS with the same person (Glorious and Wise Leader Put1n) staying in.

So,

Fair is not an absolute. It is a variable and elections can be more fair, or les fair.

[darmstadt]

Are you seriously suggesting Iran who stones adulteress women to death is the moral equivalent of us for a mathematicians suicide 80 odd years ago?

Turing was prosecuted in 1952 for homosexual acts; the Labouchere Amendment of 1885 had mandated that "gross indecency" was a criminal offence in the UK. He accepted chemical castration treatment, with DES, as an alternative to prison. Turing died in 1954, 16 days before his 42nd birthday, from cyanide poisoning.

[AtW]

Are you seriously suggesting Iran who stones adulteress women to death is the moral equivalent of us for a mathematicians suicide 80 odd years ago?

We are not talking about morality here, we are talking about democracy - which by the way has nothing to do with homosexuality being legal or not (which it wasn't in the UK until relatively recently).

Oh, and the President of Iran (elected directly, unlike BS system in this country) is the Head of State actually.