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    #11
    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Why?

    All the PMs and party leaders pretend to be or are Christian.
    Is that true? I don't recall a single mention of religion all through the campaign. Tony Blair was the last one who made a deal about his christianity, which I always thought was a big vote winning lie. But it looks like I was wrong and actually he was faking being a moderate christian and is in fact more of a nutter christian.

    Surely christianity is inherently left wing?
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      #12
      Yes, I mix politics and religion - I'm C of E.
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        #13
        Originally posted by threaded View Post
        You cannot separate religion and politics. Your statement itself is a political position on religion.
        If you're religious then your political views will likely be affected by how you think... but that's no different from a non-religious person's political views being affected by their morals/ethics/agenda. For instance if you are opposed to abortion (whether for religious or personal moral reasons) you will likely not vote fora party who are progressive on allowing it more easily. But a very tight interation of religion/politics doesn't make sense to me - e.g the Christian party seems a dumb idea to me,

        Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
        Is that true? I don't recall a single mention of religion all through the campaign. Tony Blair was the last one who made a deal about his christianity, which I always thought was a big vote winning lie. But it looks like I was wrong and actually he was faking being a moderate christian and is in fact more of a nutter christian.
        It's not a big deal here but it does come up as a side issue. Brown's the son of a minister and mentions this quite often, I think Cameron is nominally a wishy-washy CofE Christian. I think Nick Clegg said he has 'no faith' in one of the TV debates in passing.
        There are quite a few Muslim MPs these days, it's very much a non-issue compared to th US though.

        Surely christianity is inherently left wing?
        This has been debated for centuries by both sides. Christianity clearly talks about putting others first and giving up your wealth to help those in need, but Jesus doesn't denounce personal wealth as long as you don't make it your 'god'. Jesus was pretty keen to keep out of politics, seems he really wasn't interested to much.
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          #14
          Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
          Why?

          All the PMs and party leaders pretend to be or are Christian.
          With the exception of Nick Clegg - "I'm not a man of faith, but my wife is", as he reminded us in the second debate.
          If you have to add a , it isn't funny. HTH. LOL.

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            #15
            Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
            Is that true? I don't recall a single mention of religion all through the campaign. Tony Blair was the last one who made a deal about his christianity, which I always thought was a big vote winning lie. But it looks like I was wrong and actually he was faking being a moderate christian and is in fact more of a nutter christian.

            Surely christianity is inherently left wing?
            Actually, Blair didn't - Alistair Campbell said "we don't do God". It was a big thing that Blair "converted" to Christianity after leaving office as PM for some reason (maybe because he is meant to be bringing peace to the middle east?), but the matter of his faith during his rule wasn't raised too much.
            If you have to add a , it isn't funny. HTH. LOL.

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              #16
              Originally posted by The Wikir Man View Post
              With the exception of Nick Clegg - "I'm not a man of faith, but my wife is", as he reminded us in the second debate.
              Nick Clegg's wife is a man

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                #17
                sectarianism is the cause of many bloody wars, yugoslavia, northern ireland etc

                church and state should be separate, i think we are mostly lucky, queenie doesn't do much despite being head of the anglicans, and let's face it they are just atheists in skirts

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
                  Surely christianity is inherently left wing?
                  The Reverend Pitcher doesn't seem too left wing to me.
                  If you have to add a , it isn't funny. HTH. LOL.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Wikir Man View Post
                    Actually, Blair didn't - Alistair Campbell said "we don't do God". It was a big thing that Blair "converted" to Christianity after leaving office as PM for some reason (maybe because he is meant to be bringing peace to the middle east?), but the matter of his faith during his rule wasn't raised too much.
                    Blair was always a Christian but didn't make a big deal out of it. He converted to Catholicism after he left office.
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
                      Is that true? I don't recall a single mention of religion all through the campaign. Tony Blair was the last one who made a deal about his christianity, which I always thought was a big vote winning lie. But it looks like I was wrong and actually he was faking being a moderate christian and is in fact more of a nutter christian.
                      They keep quiet while in the political eye but all without fail go to Church. You've seen them on TV.

                      If you aren't religious then you would refuse to go through the motions but they all do.

                      Also it's well known that if you talk about/ known to be an extremely committed religious follower than the public won't like you i.e. Ruth Kelly.

                      Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
                      Surely christianity is inherently left wing?
                      Nope there are lots of Church-going Tories. The one that quickly comes to mind is Anne Widdecombe even though she is no longer an MP as she stood down.
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