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Originally posted by b0redom View PostWhat about if I'm working in, say Farnborough, and I need to go to Wales for a week to support some server installs. Assuming I'm IR35 caught (or working through a brolly for convenience), I realise I can't claim for my commute to Farnborough, but if ClientCo say that I am needed onsite in Wales, can I claim for that?Comment
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Top banana. Thanks. I'm LTD (and outside IR35) anyway, just interested.And the lord said unto John; "come forth and receive eternal life." But John came fifth and won a toaster.Comment
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Originally posted by DaveB View PostIf you are using a (conventional) brolly you are effectivly IR35 caught anyway.Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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Originally posted by MarkT View PostSo, in other words, we flew a kite, it was shot down by the UK Contractor Air Force, so now we are off to Toys R Us to buy another one, with a laser. See you in April...?
So their bright idea of putting contractors on payroll went down in flames, and they don't have any other bright ideas.
That and the fact that they may have finally realised with the dividend tax they've already achieved half of what they wanted to gain anyway.
But they have to do something about ER because it lets people sidestep the dividend tax on a nice little sum. And they don't want to zap ER entirely because they want it there to encourage entrepreneurs. And it's tricky. People invested, took risks, with the understanding that ER was going to be there and that they would be able to do really nicely out of it if they succeeded. Now, if they take it away, those people get shafted. So it is a little tricky to take it away entirely for existing companies, so they need longer to figure out what they will do.
Which makes everything very awkward. If only they could define a PSC in legislation, they could take ER away for PSCs. It's quite the problem for them, because surely they should be able to grab that £450 million or whatever it is one way or another.Comment
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostExcept now there's a difference. You can be outside IR35 but paying all your PAYE with an umbrella but still able to claim T&S, and inside IR35 paying all your PAYE with an umbrella but not able to claim T&S. Umbrella contractors probably have no idea of their IR35 status because it's not relevant to them, so will they all now need to get contract reviews and start worrying about going to Christmas parties and all the other nonsense? Will the umbrella companies become liable for all this?
So there's nothing else for the employee to worry about getting contract reviews etc. (they could do, of course, for a commercial review), and nothing else for the umbrella to be liable for.Comment
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Originally posted by WordIsBond View PostNo. It was shot down by UK PLC, who said, "Georgie boy, if you make us put our contractors on payroll you will never be prime minister, and we may even fund a new party since Labour is committing slow suicide and you've become new Labour.Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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Originally posted by mudskipper View PostIn the consultation doc, it referred (I paraphrase) to the main place of work for the employment, so your trip to Wales would be allowed.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostI was hoping there would be something in the consultation about a pot of money people can claim from for having to travel across the border to Wales to work.. A bit like the Victim Support thing."You can't climb the ladder of success, with your hands in the pockets"
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostProbably more likely that it was a work of complete fiction in the first place.
That could mean the leaks were just someone misinterpreting the discussion document. But it could also mean they were floating a trial balloon to see the response, which is a tried and tested government technique.
And it would be strange for both the DM and the Guardian to make the same mistakes at the same time.Comment
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